How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

I am like a fish out of water,

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Why is America so fucked up?

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

What should every American know before traveling to the UK?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

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These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

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Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Why do I want to suck cock, after smoking methamphetamine?

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Is Replika conscious?

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Why do some of those who believe in a god refuse to consider the possibility they could be wrong?

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Why do I feel worthless most of the time?

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Sain (a barber)

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Kabir (a weaver)

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

NOW…

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

CONCLUSION:

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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Now here in this verse

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||